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FF vs P pace at Watkins Glen International

Class · click a class to switch, + to compare alongside (up to 4)
Reference class · the others' laps as a share of this one's at the same event, so years compare despite weather; + a class above to measure against it

Quickest here: FF 2:00.426 David Ybarra, Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International race · P 1:43.666 Perry Richardson, Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International qualifying

1:451:501:552:001 rule change between Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International1 ▾8 rule changes between Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International8 ▾6 rule changes between Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International6 ▾FF race best at Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 2:01.283 (Theodore Burns)FF race best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 2:00.426 (David Ybarra)FF qualifying best at Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 2:01.893 (Chris Smith)FF qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 2:01.607 (Theodore Burns)FF qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 2:00.581 (David Ybarra)P race best at Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 1:44.354 (Perry Richardson)P qualifying best at Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 1:43.666 (Perry Richardson)P qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 1:51.245 (Darryl Shoff)Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2023Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2024Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2025Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2026
FFPsolid race · dashed qualifying · slower is lower
92%93%94%95%96%97%98%99%100%1 rule change between Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International1 ▾8 rule changes between Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International8 ▾6 rule changes between Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International and Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International6 ▾FF race best at Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 100.0% of FF's (Theodore Burns)FF race best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 100.0% of FF's (David Ybarra)FF qualifying best at Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 100.0% of FF's (Chris Smith)FF qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 100.0% of FF's (Theodore Burns)FF qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 100.0% of FF's (David Ybarra)P qualifying best at Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International: 92.3% of FF's (Darryl Shoff)Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2023Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2024Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2025Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International2026
FFPsolid race · dashed qualifying · each class's best lap as a share of FF's at the same event (the reference class, changeable above); 100% is level, higher is quicker
EventFFP
Qual bestRace bestTrapQual bestRace bestTrapvs FF% of FF
Finger Lakes Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International ST26JUN192026-06-192:00.581David Ybarra · fastest of 9 · top 5 within 7.0s-1.026s (-0.84%)2:00.426David Ybarra · fastest of 9 · top 5 within 3.4s-0.857s (-0.71%)135.4Robert Dietz+3.8 mph (+2.9%)1:51.245Darryl Shoff · only car+7.579s (+7.31%)147.9Darryl Shoff-2.6 mph (-1.7%)-9.336s qual92.3% qual
6 rule changes (FF: 1, P: 5)1 cars added · 1 engine · 1 induction · 1 suspension & brakes · 2 wording · FF clarifies alternative tire eligibility for cars homologated 1989 or earlier with rocker arm or outboard suspension on all four corners. · Prototype carbon-carbon and carbon-ceramic brake rotors now permitted instead of prohibited. · P class 13B rotary engine restrictor changes to 40mm SIR fuel injection or 41.5mm venturi carburetor. · Prototype class adds Radical SR3 spec line to Table 1 effective 9/1/25. · Prototype P2 cars may now run P2 spec or modified Prototype spec in Prototype class; clarified language and added Radical Cup series table. · Prototype Engine Table A 2-cycle restrictor reduces from 40mm to 38mm venturi size.showhide
  • FF Formula F Alternative Tire Rule Proposed Clarifications #39281wordingneutralFF clarifies alternative tire eligibility for cars homologated 1989 or earlier with rocker arm or outboard suspension on all four corners.
  • P Request to Continue to Allow Carbon Brakes #39476suspension & brakesneutralPrototype carbon-carbon and carbon-ceramic brake rotors now permitted instead of prohibited.
  • P 13B Rotary Engine Rules Change Request #38856engineunclearP class 13B rotary engine restrictor changes to 40mm SIR fuel injection or 41.5mm venturi carburetor.
  • P Add Radical Cup series Radical SR3 spec line to Table 1 #38916cars addedneutralPrototype class adds Radical SR3 spec line to Table 1 effective 9/1/25.
  • P Clarify spec line cars language #38943wordingneutralPrototype P2 cars may now run P2 spec or modified Prototype spec in Prototype class; clarified language and added Radical Cup series table.
  • P RM 25-05 - Prototype Engine Table A, 2 Cycle Restrictor Change #38929inductionslowerPrototype Engine Table A 2-cycle restrictor reduces from 40mm to 38mm venturi size.
Glen Region SCCA Hoosier Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International ST25JUN272025-06-271:43.666Perry Richardson · fastest of 21:44.354Perry Richardson · fastest of 2150.5Todd Parks
8 rule changes (FF: 5, P: 3)2 tyres & wheels · 1 weight · 5 wording · FF adds rocker arm and outboard suspension cars optional bias ply and VFF tires; removes front-as-rear rule, adds mixing restrictions. · Class P adds clarification notes on restrictor requirements, throttle bodies, Mazda 12A engine spec, and P2 auto-based engine rules. · FF allows older cars with rocker arm or outboard suspension to use bias ply slicks or VFF tires instead of radials. · Prototype Staudacher and unrestricted engine notes corrected for minimum weight wording. · Prototype class renamed from P1 to P, affecting designation throughout rules with no performance changes. · FF and FC cars with sequential gearbox must add 10 lbs. to minimum weight, down from 25 lbs. · FF Honda Fit allows Fast Forward 0.25mm oversize pistons PN FF800-110 as alternative; piston diameter spec clarified to 2.8835 inches. · FF VTEC activation valve must function; EGR blanking plate rule clarified with Fast Forward part numbers.showhide
  • FF Page 228, FF tire rule 9.1.1.10.e #38251tyres & wheelsneutralFF adds rocker arm and outboard suspension cars optional bias ply and VFF tires; removes front-as-rear rule, adds mixing restrictions.
  • P Add missing punctuation marks #38150wordingneutralClass P adds clarification notes on restrictor requirements, throttle bodies, Mazda 12A engine spec, and P2 auto-based engine rules.
  • FF Formula F Proposal to Invite Older Cars Via a Tire Rule Change #37802tyres & wheelsfasterFF allows older cars with rocker arm or outboard suspension to use bias ply slicks or VFF tires instead of radials.
  • P Correct text in engine table notes #37606wordingneutralPrototype Staudacher and unrestricted engine notes corrected for minimum weight wording.
  • P Update Prototype class designation #37653wordingneutralPrototype class renamed from P1 to P, affecting designation throughout rules with no performance changes.
  • FF Change FF/FC Weight with Sequential Gearbox #36651weightfasterFF and FC cars with sequential gearbox must add 10 lbs. to minimum weight, down from 25 lbs.
  • FF Alternative Oversize Honda Fit Pistons #37064wordingneutralFF Honda Fit allows Fast Forward 0.25mm oversize pistons PN FF800-110 as alternative; piston diameter spec clarified to 2.8835 inches.
  • FF Update to FF EGR Blanking Plate Rule #36633wordingneutralFF VTEC activation valve must function; EGR blanking plate rule clarified with Fast Forward part numbers.
Finger Lakes Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International ST24MAY312024-05-312:01.607Theodore Burns · fastest of 6 · top 5 within 8.9s-0.286s (-0.23%)2:01.283Theodore Burns · fastest of 6 · top 5 within 6.9s131.6Charles Foster-2.4 mph (-1.8%)
1 rule change (FF: 1)1 wording · FF Honda Fit gains Fast Forward FF800-100 oversize piston ring pack option.showhide
  • FF Honda Fit Oversize Piston Rings #35305wordingneutralFF Honda Fit gains Fast Forward FF800-100 oversize piston ring pack option.
Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International ST23JUN022023-06-022:01.893Chris Smith · fastest of 9 · top 5 within 3.8s133.9Chris Smith
11 earlier rule changes on record, in force before Glen Region Hoosier SCCA Super Tour @ Watkins Glen International (from 2019)2 engine · 1 tyres & wheels · 8 wording · FF Honda Fit engine adds Fast Forward part number alternatives for intake, exhaust, oil system, and scavenge pump components. · FF block relief permitted only as needed to fit allowed crankshaft. · FF class cylinder head may now have optional coolant bleed line fitting to top of head for air release. · FF Honda LC1 ECU by HPD permitted effective 12/1/2020, must use HPD lambda sensor. · FF Honda LC1 ECU implementation date changed from 3/1/2020 to pending availability of support materials. · FF alternator changes from not required to optional. · FF allows Honda HPD LC1 low-cost ECU with lambda sensor; E1 ECU no longer supported but existing units permitted if sealed. · FF rain tyres now allow Hoosier W3 Radial in addition to existing Hoosier Wet option. · FF Honda Fit permitted to use 0.25mm oversize pistons, cylinder honing increased to 73.315mm maximum. · FF heat shield rule clarified: thermal wrap allowed on manifold exterior if easily removable for inspection. · FF catch tank minimum capacity rules clarified: coolant catch tank now one U.S. pint minimum, oil catch tank one U.S. quart minimum.showhide
  • FF Add Fast Forward Part Numbers for Honda Fit Engine #33752wordingneutralFF Honda Fit engine adds Fast Forward part number alternatives for intake, exhaust, oil system, and scavenge pump components.
  • FF Kent crankshaft clarification #30426wordingneutralFF block relief permitted only as needed to fit allowed crankshaft.
  • FF Allow Optional Coolant Bleed Line to Correct a Known Problem #29673wordingneutralFF class cylinder head may now have optional coolant bleed line fitting to top of head for air release.
  • FF Clarification regarding Honda LC1 ECU implementation date #29684wordingneutralFF Honda LC1 ECU by HPD permitted effective 12/1/2020, must use HPD lambda sensor.
  • FF Clarification regarding Honda LC1 ECU implementation #29135wordingneutralFF Honda LC1 ECU implementation date changed from 3/1/2020 to pending availability of support materials.
  • FF E&O FF Kent Engine alternator language #28204wordingneutralFF alternator changes from not required to optional.
  • FF Honda Racing HPD low cost ECU proposal #27563engineneutralFF allows Honda HPD LC1 low-cost ECU with lambda sensor; E1 ECU no longer supported but existing units permitted if sealed.
  • FF Update rain tire designation #28443tyres & wheelsneutralFF rain tyres now allow Hoosier W3 Radial in addition to existing Hoosier Wet option.
  • FF Request for Oversize Honda Fit Pistons #25810enginefasterFF Honda Fit permitted to use 0.25mm oversize pistons, cylinder honing increased to 73.315mm maximum.
  • FF Heat Shield - Fit Intake #26102wordingneutralFF heat shield rule clarified: thermal wrap allowed on manifold exterior if easily removable for inspection.
  • FF Request catch cans/tanks clarification #26158wordingneutralFF catch tank minimum capacity rules clarified: coolant catch tank now one U.S. pint minimum, oil catch tank one U.S. quart minimum.

Best is the class's fastest lap in that event's qualifying or race sessions, with the driver who set it, how many cars set a time that session and how close the top five were; a best from fewer than three cars is greyed. With two or more classes, "vs" is the gap of each class's best to the first class's at the same event. "% of FF" is the class's best as a share of FF's best at the same event (100% is level, less is quicker): weather and track condition move every class together, so this compares across years where the raw times do not. It still breaks when FF's own field changes or one session was wet and another dry. Newest event first. The coloured figure under each value is the change from the previous event that has one (green is quicker, red slower). Whole laps only, so events with different sector layouts still compare. Weather and track condition are not accounted for.